July 1, 2007

Is it worth the wait?

Posted in Immigration, Moral Issues, Politics, Thoughts at 6:59 pm by Dan Barnett

I found this story on my vista side bar.   This Cuban-born man became a US citizen at age 105.  I wonder how long he’s been trying to become one.  I haven’t read the whole article.  I thought the point of the story was good enough.  Is becoming a US citizen worth that long of a wait?  I heard a story recently on the radio of a man who went to traffic court to fight a seatbelt ticket.  He got the ticket thrown out, but on the way out the Judge told him to wear it next time.  He turned around and told the judge he was disgusted that four illegal immigrants in front of him were released, all charges dropped, and set free still illegal immigrants.  This is due to the Clear Act.  The judge responded by throwing the man in jail for contempt of court.  Who are our laws really protecting.  passing legislation is supposed to be a way to protect the citizens of our country.  What’s next? 



  1. John said,

    I’m not exactly sure what all of my thoughts are regarding immigration laws.

    There are entire communities of families who have crossed the border in the United States illegally. The Pilsen Project in Chicago (I assume it’s still around) is one of those. You will find men or women who have left their families in hispanic countries to earn money to support their family back home living in caste systems and destitute poverty.

    I don’t have a problem with people doing whatever they can to provide a comfortable and safe life for their family. While that same life would be considered substandard to you or I.

    In many ways, they make the life that we have affordable to us. Their ‘substandard’ living balances out our economy and workforce. The reality is that illegal immigrants have a much stronger work ethic than you or I. They will work longer, harder, and for less pay.

    They also have stronger family values and principles than most of us. Their family, whether here or across the border is at the core of their existence.

    I tend to find that people who are opposed to allowing people to cross the border can be found making ignorant and arrogant comments like:
    .:If you’re going be in my country, then learn to speak the language. (those same people expect them to speak English in their home country, too – at least when they are vacationing there).
    .:They’re taking all of our jobs… – In the trades world, landscaping and drywall teams are prodominately hispanic. They are prodominately hispanic, because they are the only ones showing up to work those jobs. (as a side note, many unions or nonunion managers pay their employees a fair income regardless of their home country or immigrant status). Saying that immigrants have these jobs because the pay is so low is inaccurate. The bottom line is that they are doing the jobs that most Americans don’t want anything to do with. Pay has nothing to do with it.
    .:Refer to them as Mexicans. “The Mexicans came in to tape the house…” When I challenge and say, “Why do you call them Mexicans?” The answer is usually, “Well, that’s what they are…” The respectful way to identify them would be to call them, “landscapers or dry-wallers or whatever the job title is.” Hispanics in the trades always seem to be identified as Mexicans instead of as people. I don’t recall ever hearing someone say “the white guys are coming to frame the house…”

    I guess I do have an idea of where I stand regarding immigration… So what about those Canadians, eh?

    As for the guy in court. The judge was right to nail him. If the article was correct, then the guy acted like an ignorant jerk. Not that it was any of his business, but how did he know that the 4 people released in front of him were ‘illegals’? Was he inspecting their status on his PDA? The guy was an idiot, and the judge reacted appropriately (even biblically). If you recall the story of the king who pardoned his servant’s unpayable debt. The servant turned around and refused to pardon a fellow servant’s debt. The king put reversed his pardon and put him prison until he could repay his debt to the king. (Matthew 18:23-34) So good for the judge.

    I don’t understand why people get so enraged over immigration. They’ve turned “The Land of the Free” into “The Land of the Priviledged Only”. It makes sense to have some level of control over immigration flow, but in the end why should I be so against someone trying to provide for their family. What would any of us do if we were in their shoes? My assumption would be that it was important for the 105 year old man, because there are probably family members on the other side of the border hoping to be petitioned ‘legally’ into the country. So absolutely, it’s worth the wait. I’m sure that he wasn’t just making a statement or trying to be on the news. The ones who cross the border are the ones that not only dream of a better life, but actually go for it (even if it means getting shot). If someone’s willing to run towards a military guarded border; imagine what they are running away from.

  2. Dan Barnett said,

    “but how did he know that the 4 people released in front of him were ‘illegals’”
    Everypne on the room knew. It was part of their trial. When found out the judge could not touch them because of the Clear Act. The Judge even explained it to him in the argument.

  3. Stevie said,

    Many ILLEGAL immigrants come into the country so they can set up housing to sneak more ILLEGAL immigrants into the country. There is a system set up (and by no means do I think it’s perfect) for people to come into this country LEGALLY. It shouldn’t matter what country they come from (eh?) as long as they come LEGALLY.
    As far as the jobs that Americans don’t want…I would like to see what would happen if our country got ride of welfare.

  4. Dan Barnett said,

    Wow! Stevie with a serious comment(I think). The point of this post is not illegal immigration. The court case was an example of how we are bound by the laws of this country, but certain other people are allowed to slip through so easily by loop holes that Congress makes for them—the vey Congress that says it is trying to fix this problem. The point is, while I understand the joy in immigrants’ hearts of becoming a citizen, what makes it so great to be a citizen of this country?
    Part of the labor problem is America is lazy. These jobs can be done by us, and many of us are willing to do them, but an employer would rather pay $3 an hour than $7.50. This is why stricter penalties are supposed to be in place now under the immigration bill for employers who hire illegals.

  5. John said,

    15 years ago a couple was successfully petitioned to come to the States. They had 3 children. 2 of their kids were minors, and 1 was not. The minors accompanied their parents to the states where they were raised. Their older sister was considered a legal adult and not allowed to come. When the parents became US citizens they petitioned their daughter. That was 12 years ago. Their daughter’s petition has still not been approved.

    Another woman came into the country ‘illegally’. She left her young daughter and her elderly father to come to the states to support them. She got a job as a nanny for a wealthy couple. Her father developed a severe heart condition. In order for him to get any medical help, he would have to pay the bill before treatment. Had she not been here earning money that would not be possible at home; her father would have been turned away at the hospital and died.

    So before judgments are passed on people for entering this country illegally, consider what your actions would be given the similar circumstances.

    If you made it successfully into this country illegally, would you try to help your wife and kids living in the worst of circumstances? Dan had a hard time just being quarantined from his family for a day while he was sick. Imagine leaving the loves of your life for years for no other reason to make sure that they survive.

    Bottom line – You’re talking politics and ethnocentricic reasoning. It’s self-centered and pious at best. Jesus said, whatever you have done to the least of these; you’ve done it unto me.

    This has nothing to do with situation ethics. I’m not saying that it’s right for them to cross borders illegally. I’m saying it’s wrong for American’s selfish perspectives to stand in their way.
    What would you do if you were at a toll booth with no attendant on duty and you didn’t have any toll? Would you go through or would you sit there and wait for someone to give you $1? (and don’t say that you’d call the toll booth phone number, because you’re kidding yourself)

  6. Becki said,

    Ditto what John said. Rick & I have had this “discussion” too many times to count. I think it’s easy for us to stand on our White high horses and shake our fingers at the illegals. Have you ever done something illegal & gotten away with it? Like John has said, we can not even imagine the kinds of circumstances that people are trying to escape from to get here. Just because the possibility exists to come to this country legally doesn’t mean it will be easy or even PROBABLE. I think when it comes to this issue we forget to think like Christians and instead think like “Americans”. I know you didn’t intend on heading this direction with your post, but….

  7. Dan Barnett said,

    That’s fine. I just these comments aren’t toward me, since I haven’t even said a bad thing about illegals. Just that they are immuned to the law under the clear act.

  8. John said,

    This blog kind of started out as an us and them conversation. It seemed to support the blowhard in the courtroom that got thrown in jail for mouthing off. I didn’t read the article, so I don’t know what the details were. I also don’t know much about the Clear Act. I looked it up online, and the only things that I could find on it were that it was intended to come alongside immigration officials because of how grossly outnumbered they are. I’m also not sure what you mean by immuned to the law. I find that to be a difficult statement to accept.

    My comments were more general in nature, and then slightly directed in Stevie’s direction. Besides, I know that you wouldn’t ride on a tall white horse, because I know that deep down you fear my wife.

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