March 28, 2007

Blaspemy Challenge?

Posted in Christian Life at 10:12 pm by Dan Barnett

There’s a site targeting our youth to get them to renounce Christ. They make a video and upload it on youtube. At some point they have literally say they renounce the Holy Spirit. Then there’s the site that responds to it. It is Christians uploading videos professing their faith. This whole thing scares me because most of the kids don’t understand the full concept of what they are doing. This is all based on Matthew 12:31 -“Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.” If you are a true christian, do you think you can actually commit this sin? If you have been made new and truly have a faith in Christ and have made him the Lord of your life, can you truly do this? The same question applies to what we see as the final authority of all things. A true christian knows that God is the final authority whether we sin or not. We always know it is wrong, yet we may not yield to it. We also know that God’s authority will always prevail. So can you really do it?

Comments On This Post From My Old Site:

Hollie said…
I have to be honest, when I first heard of this verse I didn’t even know it was in the Bible! I read it and was so confused at that fact that there was something that our Loving and Forgiving God would not forgive! I was overcome with worry, not for myself, but for others who have committed this sin. I kept wondering, “What if they denied the Holy Spirit but then later wanted that forgiveness?” Did they not get it? Then I researched it a little bit more and found out that there can be forgiveness even if the sin was committed!
I think what confuses people the most is the fact that this verse is totally taken out of context. Jesus was directing this to the Pharisees who were claiming that the only way Jesus could be performing the miracles he was doing was because he was possessed by demons not because He was filled with the Holy Spirit. These were people who knew the scriptures forward and backward. They knew who the Holy Spirit was and would have never disrespected it. Yet still they believed that the power Jesus had was from demons, not only did they believe this they wanted to try and convince others that this was true. What scares me about this is that someday some of these people who have taken this challenge to deny Jesus might actually have a change of heart and want to seek forgiveness but feel that they can’t because this sin they have committed was unforgivable! We as Christians need to be aware of this verse and aware of the fact that there is forgiveness, even for the unforgivable sin! Also we need to remember that the people who are saying these horrible things about our Savior are people who Jesus loves and died for! We need to show them the love of Jesus Christ our risen Savior!

March 5, 2007 5:56 PM

Rebecca said…

From the way Rick explained it to me, it is a different than how Hollie understands it. Denying the Holy Spirit is refusing to become saved. You are denying the Holy Spirit’s witness. A Christian can not commit this sin because they have already accepted the Holy Spirit. Rick says, “If you are even wondering if you have ever blasphemed the Spirit, then you haven’t.” The way I understand it is that the sin IS unforgivable in the sense that if you do not accept the Holy Spirit, when you go to heaven, this can not be overlooked & have you be allowed in. Make sense?I don’t know why every one is so surprised that this is happening. We should be more concerned about WHY an idea like this would be so popular & what about our culture would make this so attractive. Every one is sending me emails about this being so scary. What about other post-modern thinking? What about the idea that we can all be our God’s or that whatever you think is right for you is right? I mean, this blasphemy thing is just people regurgitating something they’ve been told to say.

Just my $.02

March 6, 2007 9:27 AM

Beth said…
There is a sin that God will not forgive and that is someone that refuses to except Him as their Savior and see Him for who he is. I agree with Becki (or Rick) about what this actually means. It’s having a hardened heart toward the Holy Spirit and denying Christ. God gave us a choice and that is exactly why there is a Heaven and a Hell. The people on their way to Hell won’t be forgiven. Yes, God is loving and fogiving but God is also just and jealous and I think that too many times we want to leave that part out. There are always conseqences for our sin.

March 6, 2007 2:17 PM

Beth said…
Me again. So, I looked up this verse and others like it…Mark 3:28-29, Luke 12:10, 1 John 5:16. A commentary I read on the subject has this to say:Christians sometimes wonder if they have committed this sin of blasphmey against the Holy Spirit. Christians need not to worry about this sin;it is a heart-attitude of unbelief and unrepentance. Deliberate, ongoing rejection of the work of the Holy Spirit is blasphemy because it is rejecting God himself. The religious leaders accused Jesus of blasphemy, but ironically they were the guilty ones when they looked him in the face and called him Satan.

March 6, 2007 3:03 PM

Dan Barnett. said…
I think this is worthy of further study/research and discussion. One thing that is dangerous is experience-based beliefs. We all have them, but they are our final authority on what we believe on something, it can be very dangerous. If we stop at that and don’t go further to see if it is backed up in the Bible, then we are not following what God says. We are following something we believe because it seemed true according to our experience. This is just another form of the post-modernism that Becki pointed out. What is scary about this challenge, for me, is how loosely the sovreignty of God is being ridiculed. When you blaspheme God you reject His sovreignty. Yikes! I’ll post on the Desiring God book soon. It ‘touches’ on this.

March 6, 2007 9:22 PM

John said…
Food for thought on this and anything remotely related – As believers, Christ has committed himself to us (he is faithful even when we are faithless). We are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption by placing our faith in Christ (Ephesians 1). Nothing can separate us from the love of Christ… Balance that with the idea that we had free wills and capacity for sin before we accepted Christ as our savior. While we are new creatures (old has gone and new has come) the capacity for sin remains as does our free will (see Romans 8). That would suggest that regardless of the intensity of the sin committed, our security in Christ remains, because we are not God and God will not deny himself or reject us, because he said so, and we are sealed by His Holy Spirit.
The point is not to focus on the sin that may or may not be committed but on the committment that God has made to those who have, at some point in their life, placed their faith in Him. God’s love is what compels us to worship Him, and submit our lives as living sacrifices.
Paul says, in view of God’s grace, should we go on sinning so that God’s grace may increase. The answer is – of course not. An appropriate view of God’s grace and mercy in our lives drives us to a Christ centered life. (however that’s not a guarantee – we have a choice to make) take up your cross daily =)In the end, this may not have much to do with this post, but hopefully it made good for thinking.

March 6, 2007 9:25 PM

Rebecca said…

Beth: It is interesting that you mentioned that commentary in the second post. Dan has Rick’s Bible, so we were both wondering if the verb that is associated with the verse is something that is ongoing or something that just occurs once. I was thinking that it had to be an ongoing blasphemy, as that’s what would make sense!Good conversation ;>)

March 6, 2007 10:27 PM

Adam said…
The word that is being used for “Blasphemy” is a noun, therefore it does not give any indication on whether it is taking place at a single point in time or it is an on going thing. It simply means to “speak evil against” or “revile”.Yes, the world that we live in practices a post-modern way of thinking, yet I do not believe anything that has been stated here reflects that line of thought. What Rebecca, Beth, and John said is right.

The Pharisees were openly opposing the work of God… and God Himself. This is the Blasphemy that is being talked about. The refused to believe that Christ was who He really said that He was and accept Him as the Promised Messiah. (This reflects Rebecca and Beth).

So… Case and Point. To answer another question, lets follow John’s line of thought. If what previously stated is the Blasphemy, can a Christian really do this?

NO! If someone is truly saved they have already accepted Christ for who He is. Thus, they cannot deny Him. If they attempt to do (which will ultimatly prove vain) God, as their loving Heavenly Father who has a commitment to keep, will chasten them and bring them back to Him. God is Faithful.

Whatever these tapes may be… though sad, confusing, painful to watch, they are nothing more than foolishness. One day, whether in this life or eternity, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

The best thing that can be done is pray for them…

March 7, 2007 12:43 PM

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